I really like Teams. I do. But the current chat layout is not suited for professional chats. It's way to space consuming. It looks like something imported from MSN with smiley's that take half of the screen. I would say that Slack have nailed it because they focused on the ability keeping a tight window with lots of chat text visible. In Teams the window is full and starts scrolling after like 10 sentences.
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Can you be more 2018 and not "****** sharepoint department from 2005" team? and do screenshots/gifs of before/after like VS Code team does?
I have created a Stylus stylesheet that overrides the formatting of Teams for the web, so that it approximates what I would want to see from a compact mode.
It hides the left pane, user icons, timestamp, and separators. It collapses almost all padding and margins. It shifts the user's name to the left, and the reply icon off to the right. It shrinks the title and tab bars.
If you're interested you can download it from:
Note that this is just the result of some CSS tweaking and took me a lunchtime. Clearly, to be properly functional it'll take more work, but since selecting the mode apparently involves little more that the choice of loading two different CSS templates, it should be easily achievable.
I look forward to seeing it in the next update ;-)
So, your response to "The layout isn't compact enough, I want to see more content" was "Ok, let's collapse that content so you can't see it!"
Great job, you really nailed it 🙄
The reply button and text widgets are only required because all conversations are presented in a single pane, even when you are participating in one.
One feature of the compact mode could be to switch focus to a single conversation, which would take over the whole pane, like Chat does. You wouldn't even require a reply button in this mode - just click on any message in the conversation to open it. The conversation would then have a single text input box at the bottom, like chat.
This may require an additional level of hierarchy to easily switch between conversations, but would be usable even just using the existing multi-conversation pane to select one, and it would be even more useful when combined with the ability to "tear off" panes into separate windows, which is also a popular request.
Repeating myself, THIS ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE LAYOUT OPTION.
We really do want this feature, but not at the expense of others. There is simply no way that a single layout can be sufficiently compact for those who need it (e.g. most of the people here), and also support those who don't (e.g. Chris Webb, below).
The small changes so far are very welcome additions to the non-compact view. But this is nowhere near a "compact layout" - not even close.
The latest version increases information density (pixels in actual conversation / pixels in window) by maybe 20%. But that's from a baseline of about 10%, so it's now at around 12%. I am prepared to bet that the people asking for a a truly compact view want it to be closer to 50% - that's 4x denser than it is now.
Tinkering with the default view will not achieve this - it needs to be a radical trim of all extraneous information.
I see the collapse/expand, which is a good addition to the non-compact mode, but I don't see a way to switch into compact view mode
I would expect it to be on the settings menu somewhere, or on the channel menu if it's a per-channel setting. Am I missing something?
Good incremental progress there, guys. I'm impressed by your momentum this year. Keep it up!
On size of the reply button check out hangouts chat from google, its 2.5 times size of the one in MS teams. I am thankful MS even made it smaller...whew.
I like the collapse and expand...perfect very nice, huge improvement. Also I see the reply button is smaller. I get why the reply button is prominent. I still believe you can make it prominent at the botton without taking up and entire line. Everyone wins
Other than that what exactly changed for density. All these effect density of message that can be read on screen ->
1. giant gutters on left and right (biggest issue)
2. Too much space between conversations (cut by half ideally)
3. Waste of line just for name/date could start message on same line just after that.
4. No word-wrapping beyond some arbitrary fixed secret number.
5. Too much empty room/gutter/border between messages in conversation.
People this isn't slack, stop trying to make it slack. I cannot stand how compact Slack is, its near unreadable.
That said, the real solution to this problem is give two options. Regular view, and "Compact" view, that the user can pick from, cause if they want that jumbled nasty wall of unorganized text that is slack, they can have it to make them happy :P lol. Win win for everyone.
Gavin Greenwalt commented
2 messages on Microsoft Teams: 215 px tall.
2 messages on Slack: 100px tall.
When Slack came out I was dismissive. "Pffft, a fancy web skin on IRC. No way this is worth Billions of dollars."
And yet somehow Microsoft isn't even managing to put a good skin on IRC! I'm sorry Slack, I didn't realize how competent you were.
I will just it straight, this community manager sucks
Shaun Wells commented
Would be good to put some content around what's changed and the actual difference between compact & normal views - would save a lot of these negative comments
I can't tell what changed. Is it that whitespace to the right of a conversation now sometimes disappears when you click off the conversation? You can't call the layout "compact" when half the vertical area of the screen is devoted solely to reply buttons.
I just updated - and I don't see any changes, can someone detail out exactly what we're supposed to be seeing different now?
Is there a blog post/article that illustrates the changes? Has the change been pushed to all tenants? Desktop apps will need to updated to reflect the change?
So I just saw that this request is not being done: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/16925779-hide-the-reply-button-under-every-message
How are we supposed to get a truly compact layout when half the problem is the bloated mess that threading makes?
On that note, I like the subtle changes so far. Keep em coming(where it makes sense)
Drew, grow up. Lei, not everyone thinks Slack is a good UI. I for one think it's very poor, and I prefer Microsoft's direction they are going with the UI so I really hope they don't try to copy Slack, because that isn't a good thing. Teams is missing some features but the UI direction def. isn't one of them.
Drew Hammond commented
Your update is trash. Do better